Alter Egos: OOC Chat - ARCHIVED

I'll rewrite then, and make them more vulnerable. Perhaps even a small esoteric society like the Skulls.

I was going comic book style. They always have these powerful, untouchable agencies.

There we go... another domino to fall in line.

That should be more suitable, and since the organization is close to crumbling not really a factor in the storyline, at least not for long.

Hmmm, I could've swore when I first read the bio on Surge, that it stated he rarely went by his real name and almost always used 'Surge'. Was I hallucinating? I can't seem to find it now.

Oh well, it's also an interesting way for him to introduce himself and BEACON to Jeb.

At the risk of sounding like a glory-hog, an idea I had for getting Di Vine out of the hospital was to allow Jeb to make contact with the stretcher/gurney/whatever it is they're transporting him on, and "phase" both Di Vine and himself out of the building.

Then he could hook up with whatever transport the heroes had and hand off Di Vine to them.

It's certainly an option, but he would have to know the others were there and attempting to get DiVIne out of the cluthces of puppet man and his cronies.

We'd have to some how set up a meeting, even if by chance, with him and at least one of the others.

During the limo ride to the interview, Surge could explain things to Jeb, and give him a description of the heroes. That'd make it interesting for Jeb to identify and trust people he's never met before. That is, of course, totally dependent on whether Jeb takes Surge's offer or not . . .

Excellent idea. I think that could work on some level. Of course, things never go as simple as that when dealing with the likes of RAID and the defunt FBI turds.

But it would make for an interesting way for him to get introduced AND have to trust others he's never even met before.

You're probably right Kynnzak... I get a little discombobulated with all the secret identities. It does make more sense that he would introduce himself as Surge. His history would be a little different than the typical BEACONITE, since Surge would have been more of a codename when he was doing covert operations for the government. In his case, the military would have records that he is a meta-human, but due to his service to his country that information could have been classified, allowing Colonel Vacily to retain his rank and position in the pentagon, despite the RIGGS act.

He could have also buried the files later on to prevent anyone from ever pulling them up as well.

Bottom line, is that he definitely a more exposed member of Beacon, but who knows, perhaps he may be the guy in charge or he himself just another subordinate of the true leader.

I like the idea of Jeb phasing him out, of course all is reliant on just how much information, Surge would have. There is no way they could learn of the dialog that was exchanged between Henkel and Birkshire, but they could have knowledge of RAID pulling out and the FBI moving in, at least that's what the email that Toril is going to get alludes to, just some cryptic information that will do little else but raise his curiousity.

I am sorry I am a little confused. (1) Do the heroes know that Robert is being moved? (2) How did they become informed? (3) Are they still on the original plan of rescuing Robert from the hospital? (4) Is there a new game plan?

I know 1 is yes because (2) Zoe managed to tap into a conversation by way of one of her powers (to be explained ) for 3 and 4, I think we were now planning on intercepting his transport (at least that was the impression I was writing by in my post) and trying to rescue him en route... if I had that wrong though, I can definitely repost.

Sorry for the confusion

No probelm, I just wanted to be sure before I posted, which I shall do latter today.

For now they know he's being moved, soon.

It seems logical for me that this means the heroes need to hurry, and true, it might be easier to get him while he's being moved, but they don't know any more details. They will have to go to the hospital to find out, they can't sit by and wait for the transport to go away.

Well, they could, but that'd be stupid and due to RAID/Henkel's plan they'd also lose Robert.

They have too few details to know anything for sure and should go out to investigate, only then can they truly begin to rescue Robert. They can stick to the general plan of having Yelena and perhaps one or two others keep an eye on Robert in the hospital and gathering intelligence while the others stand by to jump on the transport once it leaves with Di Vine or something. But if they're not prepared for the unexpected, they'll fail.

Yes... I agree. We should make sure in our posts that we are covering our butts.

So just a question... Di Vine, was going to be moved the next day, right? But, it does seem as if the FBI and the remaining RAID operatives were able to set up in a few hours. So considering, recent events and such, it would be about, say between 8:00 and 10:00 pm when the FBI get the ball rolling.

They will still execute their plan the next morning right? Since the heroes are still a three hour (I think it was a three) drive from New York (not factoring in traffic )

Whatever sounds reasonable to you. But wouldn't it be expected for Jeb's interview to be long before that? Might serve us better if it wasn't quite so late just yet.

And a three hour drive is about correct.

Oh, yeah. I was thinking that while Jeb is having his interview, which would be about 5 o'clockish, RAID and the FBI would be in the midst of changing over. I imagine they would be quite subtle, but there would be some noticeable activity.

I guess the move can really occur at any time, even in the middle of the night, which would probably be more advantageous for the Feds. A little late night espionage.

Hopefully this won't be a hitch in the plans, but I was kinda leaning towards Jeb's interview as being a fake, completely orchestrated by Beacon to get him to the hospital, where he can use his powers to facilitate the rescue.

I was also wondering if Tiph could perhaps construct a post to that effect, since he knows Surge better than anyone. During the Limo ride he could introduce Beacon, reveal that the fake interview was their concoction, explain the situation and ask for Jeb's aid.

I love plotting together like this.

MWA HA HA HA HA

One of the beautiful things to consider is that RAID won't necessarily know about Jeb, so he can be an "ace in the hole" for the heroes, so to speak. . .

Well they basically just know that were definitely be a rescue attempt. They aren't exactly sure by who. They would obviously assume, it may be meta-humans that Di Vine, has associated with, and maybe even have some profiles drawn up, but they are basically just on high alert against any rescue attempt.

It would be realistic that the FBI or RAID would have been keeping their eyes on any people entering the hospital, who were not part of the original staff. Job interviews, transfers and the like would fall under scrutiny. Fortunately Jeb's story is totally legitimate, but there still might be a few eyes on him... that it is if they can spare them. With RAID pulling out, and the FBI moving in, they might not have the resources to keep tabs on everyone. I dunno, Socks probably would have far better idea on the dynamics of the law.

I ran out of time last night, so I kind of just ended my post, but at least Toril is in the hospital.

So, with RAID pulling out, their monitoring stations are being dismantled? I believe that's what was said. They wouldn't leave their equipment behind for the FBI. Would they? I am just curious if anyone is keeping an eye on the cameras. Perhaps the FBI would just be using the hospitals existing security system.

Just want to make sure my next post is accurate and it involves the current security, which is a foggy area I do not want to incorrectly set in stone.

Of course they're pulling out, but not until Di Vine is gone will they compromise the security of their prisoner.

The FBI does NOT have any authority over Di Vine and his security is still very much in the hands of RAID. Birkshire is just making use of the FBI's plan as a cover towards the heroes. FBI and RAID happened to have come to a win-win compromise between what they want. It makes no sense for RAID to breakdown anything which might let their defenses be compromised.

New York's Riggs Act enforcers are supposed to "remain hidden". Most of them are undercover or are waiting not far away for the signal to come in. RAID might be thinning out its security detail somewhat so that they can man the convoy without raising any suspicion during the planned extraction, probably many of their people are being replaced by locals as long as its not some kind of critical position which they need to fill. It'd be too obvious RAID was going somewhere if all their agents were suddenly running out the backdoor and towards their vehicles. Those who remain behind will be the ones to unravel their security web when all of it is over, either after the heroes have been spotted and are being taken care of, or several hours after Di Vine has left the building and there is no more reason to keep up appearances.

Perfect. Thanks for the clarification. That will work out perfectly.

If people will recall I had placed the surveillance room that RAID had set up in the vacant room beside the Patient Doctor Conference Room (at least I think I did). Toril may have been spotted already! Mu ha ha ha ha ha!

I guess it all really depends on their technology... in real life they are still struggling with facial recognition software, but it will definitely one day be a reality, there is no denying it. Since it is currently not ready for general use, I guess it should be put out of play.

Modified my post a little, I forgot that R.A.I.D. was laying low. So, Toril had ran into a FBI agent at the third floor door to the stairwell.

It's getting close to some action and should be around or past interview time for Jeb, although it's not difficult to squeeze in the post at this point. Toril needs some backup!

Well...he's got company in the vacinity now.

Now...all we need is for KEVIN to post for Jeb and we can get this show on the road.

Yeah, I'll just get Toril to check on his patient in 304, and wait to see what Kev has cooked up.

Toril isn't really sure what his plan is going to be, he's just basically waiting for the other heroes or his supposed partner to show up. Since he's actually a geneticist he can pull off all the testing believably, but I am thinking he could probably only stall for about half an hour before other nurses and doctors might question him.

I set Kev a post but he hasn't read it yet. He might be busy. We can move slow and wait for him to post.

He's such a hoser....